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Cutiemarkology by PhilosophyPony Cutiemarkology by PhilosophyPony
My first attempt at making a pony comic. Sorry if it's a little esoteric. Please be gentle.

Yes, that's my OC. She's a philosopher, in case you didn't guess that.

Anyway, credit where credit is due:

Library background: :iconsigmavirus1:
Farm background: :icontimeimpact:
Twilight and Applejack cutie marks: :iconblackgryph0n:
Ouroboros cutie mark: :iconmelionos:

Font used: Sunday Comics: [link]

Program used: Adobe Flash CS6

Time used: too much

Want to see another Philosopony comic? Click here: [link], or here: [link]
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:icontruecere:
truecere Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
oh no... quick bob they found out! abort mission ouroboros i repeat abort oh god i'm goona get fired
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cobeoe Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
the ouruborus should i be worried
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:iconcinderel345:
cinderel345 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013
it dosn't have to be an apple! your family has oranges!
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:icontruecere:
truecere Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
don't go there...my ass still hurts after i metioned that
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Rebron-y Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Apple Bloom is best homunculus.
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:iconzerozi:
ZeroZi Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
awesome i have read both of your comics and they blow my mind
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! I'm very pleased to know I have succeeded in blowing someone's mind twice now. ;)
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:iconzerozi:
ZeroZi Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
...... *mind blank*
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:iconfriendshipismetal777:
FriendshipIsMetal777 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My head feels funny...
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's the feeling of your mind expanding. ;)

Probably. Or, it could just be a headache. Sometimes they feel the same.
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idontrunntoofast Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
yea. Uroborus as a cutie mark!
the never-ending loop of meaninglessness!
I did that for my OC who's name just so happens to be Ouroboros ;-)
[link]
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's really cool!
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idontrunntoofast Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Thanks! :D
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:iconuminohoshi:
Uminohoshi Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Makes sense! And I love Applejack's reaction to Apple Bloom!
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tamalesyatole Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That was interesting. And it's better than have a CM of Xzibit or Cobb...

However, the problem is about the "discovering herselves". If a CM is not "the talent" of a pony, but "what identify them", the three CMC's CM (so much C and M!) could be: a) Nothing at all (because what currently identifies them is not having a CM) or: b) a CM of themselves.

Like this GIF [link] of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of Applebloom having a CM of ... You get the idea.

The "final" episode of the CMC could be one where they realize that the CM wasn't important for them, but the quest (or the crusade) after they get their CM.

So much CM!

Also, is your OC green because the PhilosoRaptor, or is just a coincidence and you just like green?
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, I didn't expect anyone to philosophize back! This is a welcome surprise. Kudos to you for actually giving it some thought. :)

Anyway, I decided to characterize the nature of cutie marks as "specialty" rather than "special talent" because I felt the latter category was too narrow. Perhaps in the grand majority of cases, a pony's special talent is also her specialty. But take Applejack, for instance. She didn't get her cutie mark from discovering that she was really good at apple-related things. She got it when she discovered that her place is with her family. The fact that she is specially talented in apple-related things seems to be a side-effect of her specialty, which, as I understand, has to do with being part of the Apple family.

I found your specific criticisms of the notion that CMs indicate specialty interesting, and ones I had to puzzle over for a little while. This is how I've come to understand the notion of pony-type specialty:

Imagine someone says to you, "Who are you? I'm not asking your name. I'm asking who YOU are." It's a hard question. A lot of people will probably respond by describing important traits of themselves: their personality, their interests, their vocation, their talents, their beliefs, etc. Imagine that a pony is defined mostly by one attribute, so if they were asked the question "Who are you?" they could use their CM-indicated specialty as a framework by which to reply. This is not to say that a pony would only be interested in or good at one thing, but one thing would have a particular importance/significance above other defining traits.

So, regarding your argument, that if CM indicates specialty that would mean that the CMC's CMs would either be (a) nothing, or (b) themselves, here are my quick and dirty replies:

(a) A pony's lack of CM would not necessarily indicate that her specialty is the fact that she doesn't have a CM, anymore than a pony's lack of brown eyes would necessarily indicate that her most defining characteristic is not having brown eyes. And, even if what "currently defines them" is their lack of CM, it isn't what defines them overall, and what defines them overall is what is relevant.

(b) If the CM symbolizes a pony's specialty, I'd only think the problem you describe would potentially arise if said pony's most defining characteristic was her own narcissism. Also, even if a pony was mostly defined by her own self-absorption, that doesn't necessarily mean that her CM would be an image of her physical appearance, since a person's essence is not identical to what she happens to look like, since a person's physical body can change without them becoming a different person.

(That Applebloom ad infinitum gif is pretty hilarious, by the way. Thanks for sharing!)

Of course, regarding the canon of the show, I may be wrong about the notion that CM indicates specialty, but I don't think there are any inescapably logical problems with the idea, apart from those like the one I made fun of in this comic.

And even if there are serious problems, well... it's ponies. Don't take it too seriously. :)

(And the Philosopony isn't supposed to be a ponification of the Philosoraptor, though now that you mention it, I can see where someone might get that notion. Purely coincidental resemblance. I only made her green because green's my favorite color.)

Anyway, thanks for the very thoughtful criticisms! And sorry for the long reply.
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tamalesyatole Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thinking about the "who are you/who am I" more deeply would be a long quest (and the recent "Too Many Pinkie Pies" would actually raise more questions about the topic).

Back to the CMs, the only canon info we have is about the mane 6 and Cheerilee, but I agree (if I understood you) that the CM is not a literal description of a pony's "talent". The "desing" of the mark itself might be just the way the pony remembers the moment of the discovery: if the mark appears when the pony "discovers him/herself", having a mark that reminds you of that moment of enlightenment, ensures that she/he will always know "who she/he are".

And one more thing:
Bellisario's Maxim: "Don't examine this too closely"
MST3K Mantra: "It's just a show; I should really just relax."
I usually agree with these phrases. But if something gives me a chance to make me think, why to reject it? Bonus points if I'm waiting in line and it's the only I can do.
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sonicx25975 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012
reminds me of the BONE comic books with the queen of dragon creating every thing and holding balance by keeping her tail in her mouth circling earth
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:iconharukohoshiko:
HarukoHoshiko Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh my that's... increadibly insightful!
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Iguanodragon Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student General Artist
clever on so many levels :D
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:iconltblackcoat:
LTblackcoat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
surprisingly deep.
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:iconoverlordk:
OverlordK Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
I laughed so hard
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MASTERCHEES3 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
AHH HUMUNCULACE
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MillenniumFalsehood Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
Lol, I had a good laugh at this! :D

That's exactly how my thought process works when trying to make sense of a show or movie . . .
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:iconfedoratheexplorer:
FedoraTheExplorer Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"That... ain't an apple." I laughed so hard, omg. XD
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Bushinio Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
wow that thought is really intresting but i think in the series they won´t get their cutiemarks through crusading at all
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:icontheoldhorse2:
theoldhorse2 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
got ride of my cutiemark, well coved it up with fur, no one must see it,
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:iconwhite-heron:
White-Heron Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
Very logical. D: It's like that's exactly what will happen!
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:iconkh0nan:
Kh0nAn Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This cutie mark is cool looking, at least.
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UMSAuthorLava Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:iconweskerplz: Yes!!

Nononono, Ouroboros with an O.

:iconweskerplz: ...Damn!
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darknight8478 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"But that ain't an apple," ha I always do think that this would pretty much be the first thing to come out of Applejacks mouth if Appleblooms cutiemark didn't include an apple somehow.
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Especially if it was something as inexplicable as a dragon eating its own tail.
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darknight8478 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Too true; too true.
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:iconhazzdawg:
Hazzdawg Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice work! I really do like your style :)
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks Hazzdawg! Likewise!
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:iconraenboow:
RaenBoow Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Lulz? Makes sense kinda xD ...But aren't they all three just terrible at finding their own cutiemarks? :XD: ...I guess Applebloom weren't at least :P
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621Chopsuey Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Apple Bloom is a Homunculus?!
:iconalphonseplz::iconsaysplz: B-But that's impossible!
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I may or may not have been inspired to make this after watching too much FMA.
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theurbanwerewolf Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
nice theory, now the ouroboros may have a connection to tiger and bunny LOL!
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:iconbb-k:
BB-K Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wonder what AB's cutie mark is all about.
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's all about... itself.
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Tangerineblast Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
All Applejack cares about is that it's not a apple.
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dear, sweet Applejack. Ever the pragmatist.
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Apple Bloom, the self-replicating specialty machine?

Seems legit


(really, it does)
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The most legit thing ever. I always knew Apple Bloom would grow up to be a metaphysical abomination.
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Mickey-the-Luxray Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
At least her mark isn't a Mobius ring-

OH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, SWEETIE! NOT YOU TOO
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MDSK-RB Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
This the first time that I see a philosopher OC, I like it :)

And that's right: the thalent of the speciality on speciality of speciality on (goes forever) is an interesting one
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PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks, I'm glad you like! Also, it's good to know that the concept didn't go over everyone's heads :)
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sixteen6stars Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Filmographer
dragon cutiemark
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:iconphilosophypony:
PhilosophyPony Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That came from [link] with the artist's permission.
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